Hollywood Toledo would have set paytables equal or at least close to that. Also interesting to me that there is a 3% payback difference at the Toledo casino between 7/5 Bonus Poker and 6/5 JoB. (Basically 98% vs 95% from the Wizard's other site). Why would a casino manager set the paytables with so much difference? Is BP harder to learn. Hollywood Casino Toledo Review. Hollywood Casino in Toledo, Ohio is owned by Penn National Gaming, Inc. And opened on May 29th 2012. The property features a 125,000 square foot casino floor with over 2,000 slot machines, 59 table games, a large poker room with 19 live action tables, five restaurants, and a lounge with live entertainment.

Do you know what the maximum slot bet is Ohio, by chance? I haven't been to an Ohio casino as of yet. I'd certainly take a shot at a $50 or $100 machine for one pull if I was up by $500 or more, so that's why I am interested. The maximum pull in West Virginia is $5.00, which I'm pretty sure is a Legislated thing, so no opportunity to take, 'The big shot,' even if I am way ahead.

Rules: Blackjack can AA can split only once / no double down, No surrender, Plus dealers make mistakes in paying all the time. You have to keep count yourself if you dont want to be ripped off. Craps: Can only do 2x odds bet. All casinos offer at least 3x, at least where I have been.

I didn't specifically look for any high denomination slots, but Ohio seems to be letting the casinos have a little more leeway than other states when they first allow gambling. In a way, they have to, because they are competing with four gaming states, each with varied laws. For example, Cleveland gamblers are used to PA and to a degree, WV gambling, so they'll expect higher limits with better games. Toledo goes against Michigan, where lower limits are more normal but the rules don't have to be quite as good.
Columbus will most likely model after Toledo, though that could be a mistake given the main competition goes to Wheeling WV. Cincinnati will nearly have to model the Indiana casinos to stay alive. This is more likely than Hollywood adapting, since as I mentioned, Hollywood is going cookie-cutter on the customers.
So to take the long way around your question, it will vary by casino, I think, but in general, Ohio casinos will most likely try to push the limits a bit.

I didn't specifically look for any high denomination slots, but Ohio seems to be letting the casinos have a little more leeway than other states when they first allow gambling. In a way, they have to, because they are competing with four gaming states, each with varied laws. For example, Cleveland gamblers are used to PA and to a degree, WV gambling, so they'll expect higher limits with better games. Toledo goes against Michigan, where lower limits are more normal but the rules don't have to be quite as good.
Columbus will most likely model after Toledo, though that could be a mistake given the main competition goes to Wheeling WV. Cincinnati will nearly have to model the Indiana casinos to stay alive. This is more likely than Hollywood adapting, since as I mentioned, Hollywood is going cookie-cutter on the customers.
So to take the long way around your question, it will vary by casino, I think, but in general, Ohio casinos will most likely try to push the limits a bit.

First of all, thank you to IBeatYourAces for that information.
I agree with you, and I strongly believe that West Virginia has some catching up to do. In fact, it has only been about a year, certainly less than two years, that you have even been able to insert a $50 or $100 bill into a slot machine. That may have just been Wheeling Island, though, but I'm fairly confident it was the entire State. They're going to have to get some lobbyists to work on getting the Legislature to loosen up on those slot denominations, I would say.
I think the Island may also hurt itself because it refrains from reducing the Table Minimums in the early a.m., when asked, most of the time even when there is literally not a single person at any of the tables. I consider that positively insane. Maybe it's because they know I'll just go back over to Slots, but I would pull out $100 on the tables and will usually only play $50 in a session on the Slots. I guess it's their choice if they like paying their dealers to stand there and do nothing, though.
I also think the Island's Blackjack rules are horrible.
-Hs17
-Resplit to 3 hands only
-Cannot Resplit Aces
-Cannot Hit Split Aces
-No Late Surrender
-Only Double on First Two Cards
I guess they're not God-awful given BJ at least pays 3:2 and you can double on a Split hand, but that basically just prevents the Rules from being as bad as they could possibly be.

I also think the Island's Blackjack rules are horrible.
-Hs17
-Resplit to 3 hands only
-Cannot Resplit Aces
-Cannot Hit Split Aces
-No Late Surrender
-Only Double on First Two Cards
I guess they're not God-awful given BJ at least pays 3:2 and you can double on a Split hand, but that basically just prevents the Rules from being as bad as they could possibly be.

That's ironic, since less than 2 years ago they had some of the BEST rules in the country. S17, no RSA, Surrender allowed and dealt face up on double deck with 75% penetration.

That's ironic, since less than 2 years ago they had some of the BEST rules in the country. S17, no RSA, Surrender allowed and dealt face up on double deck with 75% penetration.

I made a mistake, when I said, 'No Late Surrender,' I meant you can Surrender early. I put that in the list of bad rules, though, that was the mistake. That also contributes to the Rules not being as bad as they could possibly be.
They definitely Hs17 and there are six decks in the shoe now, as well. I think you still get that kind of penetration, though, but that hardly matters comparing two decks to six decks.

I won't even mention Video Poker, because you'd be better off playing slots. I check for two games, BP and JoB. The BEST JoB I saw was 8-5 and that was at the $2 level. At .25, you get 6-5.

I would have guessed (wrong, as it turns out) that they
would have set their VP paytables with an eye to the
competition in Detroit. Since Greektown has good
VP paytables at 25 cents, so to my way of thinking
Hollywood Toledo would have set paytables equal or
at least close to that.
Also interesting to me that there is a 3 % payback
difference at the Toledo casino between 7/5
Bonus Poker and 6/5 JoB. (Basically 98 % vs
95 % from the Wizard's other site). Why
would a casino manager set the paytables
with so much difference ? Is BP harder to learn
the correct strategy ?

Maybe this is the cost to have a non smoker sitting next to you, who knows. MGM has some bad vp compared to the other 2 in Detroit. Even though they have NSUD and 9/6 JOB, Greektowns cashback sucks. MC's was downgraded from .28% to .20% also for black card holders (I get .24% for being Elite). I don't know what Toledos' cashback is.

Just tell me the smoke bothers you, my friend, I'll put it out.
It's not the case for everyone, but for most of us, all you need do is ask. I always check with everyone at the table and at my row of machines if that is what I am doing before I light up. It's my habit, so if it bothers other people, I can move.

I would have guessed (wrong, as it turns out) that they would have set their VP paytables with an eye to the competition in Detroit. Since Greektown has good VP paytables at 25 cents, so to my way of thinking Hollywood Toledo would have set paytables equal or at least close to that.

They didn't even set it close to Cleveland. While I didn't find any full-pay VP machines, I did find a few banks of 8/6 JoB at .25 and higher. That's playable for a free room at the Ritz-Carlton!

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Also interesting to me that there is a 3 % payback difference at the Toledo casino between 7/5 Bonus Poker and 6/5 JoB. (Basically 98 % vs 95 % from the Wizard's other site). Why would a casino manager set the paytables with so much difference? Is BP harder to learn the correct strategy ?

I'm not sure where you're getting the 7/5 BP figure from Hollywood. The same denoms were the atrocious 6/5 with a slightly better pay table on 4 of a kind. Better than JoB, but still awful.

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